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Note to all. I am looking for reviews on the Cameleon buggys so if you have one please send and i will post. Many Thanks to Barney Craggs for providing the information on this page. Reviewers Name: Barney Craggs |
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| Flexifoil
Original: Nice compact buggy. Easily dismantled
and quickly assembled (about 2 mins once you get the hang of it and stop taking the front wheel off). Bearings are cheap enough (6 bearings at about 2 quid a shot) and the frame is stainless throughout so you dont even have to even bother with this "maintenance" stuff. One bolt through adjustable front fork assembly keeps the entire thing together, but it does rattle a bit. I would recommend some kind of foot strap the whole thing is light enough that you can consider fairly tight ones (not recommended on heavier buggies). Does take incredible amounts of abuse. Ground clearance very low so you soon learn to steer round things. Limited back axle flex so not much suspension and a bit unpleasant over some surfaces. Its not really very comfortable (masterly understatement there). Side rails are low, so you can get abducted easily. Clearance over the headset is fine for those superman impersonations. Extremely manoeuvrable and great for practicing those co-ordinated turns and skids, unless you are overpowered, in which case you just go downwind regardless of which way the wheels point. Similarly, upwind progress is fine as long as you are not flying something too big. Very light weight. Small back axle width and general dimensions means you can sand your arms on the wheels on a broad reach. For some reason, my bum always seems to get damp and I still have not worked out how this happens. They also float. |
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| Peter Lynn
Sport: Most of the comments are as for the flexi
original (they are obviously part of the same happy family of design principles and construction techniques) apart from The standard webbing seat is much better and the optional padded one is actually verging on the comfortable. The c/g seems a bit higher and a bit further forwards- but this might just be my imagination. Axle flex seems tuned a bit better that the original, so ride quality is better. Ground clearance about 1" better. It seems more solid underway, but that might be to do with the fact that this one (belonging to a friend of mine) is a lot newer than my original and has not had the same practice hitting stationary things. Otherwise pretty much the same. Would recommend this over the original. |
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| Peter Lynn
Folding: Once saw one of these used in anger
with tri-spoke alloys. Looks a bit delicate but I was assured this was not the case. Assembly time is great, but it doesnt take that much longer to put a standard one together anyway so there seems no point in buying one for that reason. Space taken up on disassembly is actually more than a standard one. But it does look "interesting" |
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| Flexifoil
2001: Only had a quick shot in this but it certainly
is a better buggy. The main changes appear to be 3 bolts to stop it rattling (one going right through each back axle socket) and much higher side rails. Headset looks a bit more serious, although I didnt have any problems clearing the original one. Back axle looks similar to original and a bit longer, but that was hard to tell next to a Libre I daresay you can get the specs off the website. Definitely another generation of improvements. |
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| Predator
Full-Race: (Barney) buggy of choice, the Predator
Full-Race has only been around a few months and is already becoming very
popular amongst the UK's top racers. Not really suprising as it has been designed and built by Peter Mirkovic and Mark Kinsghott to take the best of the other buggies on the market and provide a superbly built and balanced race buggy - that said Mark can quite happily trick this thing. Full handwelded stainless steel construction and a hand-sewn seat, splashguard and footstraps are all standard. The seat is by far and away the most comfy one out there, many hours of sitting my fat butt in it whilst the wind does nothing can testify to that. If you've got the cash (and these babies aren't cheap) then well worth considering. For the buggy spotters out there, the Predator Full-Race has adjustable rake on the headset, the forks and the axle, the combinations for adjustment are a bit of a headache but once you've got it setup how you like it then hmmmmm... Big-foot forks are available for those inclined. |
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Libre Special: The Libre Special is the freestyle/beginners buggy in the Libre range. Smaller and more portable than its more widely used siblings the Special is ideal for starting out in Buggying. The whole thing fits in the boot of a small hatchback with only a couple of bolts removed, and all the parts are interchangable with the bigger race buggies should you want to upgrade it. Agile yes, stable - well once you hit 40mph and
are on two wheels you might think a bigger buggy is a good idea (I did
- Barney) but for fun this is a great buggy. Stronger than pretty much
everything else out there in its class the Special is a good allround
buggy. |
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Libre V-Max: Only
just got this, so comments are limited: Its heavy- I mean really, really
heavy, compared to the flexis. All powder coated mild steel construction.
The back axle is huge, the side rails are huge, the front fork assembly
is huge. And did I mention its heavy? The seat is better than
the ones in my house. You even get a little platform bit at the back
to strap on all of your other kites goodbye soggy rucksack. These
babies are built for comfort and speed but I suspect cost of ownership
may end up higher than for a flexi (mainly due to steel construction
and the ability to upgrade pretty much all the bits). It takes a bit
more effort to get going (20kg vs about 7kg for a flexi), but
once underway its incredibly stable and exceptionally Set up for my height there is still a suspiciously large amount of distance left to extend the fork assembly youd probably need to be about 8 to have this all the way out. There are huge padded bits on all of the frame just to give you that extra feeling of invincibility personally I think youd have to be either incredibly unlucky or a world class contortionist to ever hits some of them, but its certainly reassuring. The only problem Ive had so far is that the stability and high rails encourage you to loft bigger and bigger kites, and thats how you end up flipping the whole thing! Do not over tighten the foot straps on one of these- if it flips and hits you whilst your foot is still trapped you will know about it, and so will the local A&E. (I really thought Id broken my leg when I did this). And another thing if you own one of these AND a smaller buggy, make damn sure you remember which one you are in. I left a few square inches of skin at St Andrews recently as I piled into a turn way too fast on my flexi [insert cartwheel]. If you take the wheels off it fits easily in the back of a Volvo estate (with room to spare) without folding down anything wheres me flat cap... I have noticed that the huge nuts on the inside of the wheels can loosen off a bit, so taking them off after each day out might be a good thing. Having to carry about the huge spanner (its about 40mm!) to tighten them is not something to recommend. Just for the record, the back axle bolts on with 4 x M8 25mm (13mm hex heads) stainless bolts with 21mm washers. You only need to know this if you manage to lose them :-( Comfort, speed, predictability- need I say more? |
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| Libre Full
Race: As above, but with knobs on. The full race gets a choice of rails and infeasibly complicated adjustable bits to alter the toe in and camber on the back wheels. Having once read a racing car suspension manual, I think you have to be either entirely ignorant or extremely skilled before you take a spanner to any of this stuff. Or maybe Im just jealous I couldnt afford one. You choose |
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